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Slide VS Carver

Truck and surfskate compared to help you choose

Every day we answer many questions from those who ask us which surfskate to buy, what are the differences and in general which is better. The answer is that, quite simply, there is no answer because each of us has different styles, different tastes and sensitivities. So? Then we can compare the characteristics of some well-sold models to help you make a choice that is as in line with your expectations, your tastes and what you want to do with your new surfskate. Let's start!

First of all when we talk about Carver we have to clarify that Carver has 2 different trucks: CX and C7. For this comparison, we will examine the CX which is the most used and the one that most often ask us to compare with others.

TRUCK CARVER CX VS TRUCK SLIDE

Carver's Truck CX is a truck in the reverse kingpin family. The Reverse Kingpin differ from the normal skate trucks in the geometry of the main bolt which has a greater inclination and consequently allows a very narrow radius of curve, impossible with a traditional truck. And the Carver truck naturally has its own geometry.

This type of truck is very simple in maintenance and adjustments.
Softness and response are entrusted to the grommets, the bushings.

In the factory setting, almost all carvers come with standard 89A bushings, but some skates can mount the harder 95A ones.

To adjust the softness that is perceived under the feet it is possible to adjust the nut of the truck a little by tightening or loosening it, the answer changes but up to a certain point. If you want to further modify the answer, you can change the rubbers, replacing them with softer or more rigid bushings, depending on what you are looking for and also in consideration of your weight.

 

The Truck Slide (here we speak of version 3) is different from the CX type trucks and also from the carver type C7 trucks, where we do not have a real truck but a mechanism mounted on two plates that oscillate. The truck slide also revolves around a pivot but in addition it has a spring inside that regulates rigidity and guarantees the return (the rebound) at the end of the stroke. 

To adjust the softness and the response you can loosen or tighten the spring.

Measurements: The two trucks are practically identical as regards height and width. 

Weight: The Carver CX truck weighs 4.19kg, while the Slide truck weighs 6.03kg

REAR TRUCKS

The rear trucks look alike in both geometry and size. 

The weight is slightly different. The C2 (Carver's rear truck) is a little heavier: 4.48 kg compared to 4.17 in the Slide rear truck. 

 

Risers: Carver trucks, front and rear, are normally assembled on 2 thicknesses, risers, 0.5mm each, for a total of 1 cm.
Slide instead uses a single riser (one in front and one behind) of 0.5mm.

BEARINGS AND WHEELS

Both Carver and Slide have Abec 7 bearings

For the wheels, however, the discussion is a little longer because, especially for Carver, there is a wide choice. In fact, Carver offers a range of 9 types of wheels, even if the most used models are two or three. It starts with the smaller 58mm diameter and hard wheels (98A), suitable for street models for this year's novelty: the large 75mm diameter wheels in Ecothane and 81A which mounts the most surfstyle model in the range, the new Super Surfer. Between these two extremes we find the Roundhouse 70mm 78a, which are the most used together with the concave.

Slide offers 2 models of wheels. The 70mm 78A wheels that are used on most skates and the 65mm 78A with 45 ° beveled profile.

What changes and how to choose the wheels?

In principle, larger wheels give greater inertia, smoothness and speed. Softer wheels absorb vibrations more.  

DECK

Carver decks are made of 7 sturdy layers of Canadian maple and covered with a dual density grip.
The slide decks are also made of 7 maple layers.

As for the shapes, Carver has a really wide range, with decks for all tastes and for all rider characteristics. From tablets just 28 inches long, perfect for kids or for use in the city and on the flat, up to a model up to 36.5 meters long. Most of the models, however, stand around 32 inches in length. 
Some of the shapes are made in collaboration with All Merrick, others with professional surfers.
Some models are distinguished by particular types of concave, very accentuated, which allows to give greater thrust with the feet.

Slide for its part has a range that currently includes 4 main models that have sizes from 31 to 33, declined in various colors, plus a 35 long model and two 30-inch models.

COMPLETE SURFSKATE CARVER AND SLIDE

And here is the comparison between some complete models of Carver and Slide, in particular Carver Resin, Carver Yago Dora, Slide Fish. 

The height from the ground of the two skates is almost identical if we postpone the difference due to the concave. 

Even the weight, despite the differences we had detected in the front truck is practically identical: we are at 3.05 for the Yago Dora with CX and 3.09 for the Slide Fish.

A questo punto probabilmente vi starete chiedendo quale vale la pena comprare e quale dei due skate vada meglio, ma su questo purtroppo non abbiamo risposte certe da dare! Quello che possiamo dire è che Carver con il suo CX ha fatto un truck che ha ben pochi rivali. Un meccanismo semplice, con poca manutenzione, capace di girare molto stretto e rispondere bene in qualsiasi situazione. Molto valido per l'allenamento in flat, eccellente sulle rampe, discese e in velocità.

Slide dalla sua parte è riuscita a creare un prodotto con un feeling davvero piacevole e fluido ad un prezzo che è circa la metà di quello di un Carver. Uno skate quello di Slide che risulta anche più facile ed immediato per chi è alle prime armi e risulta particolarmente indicato all'uso in flat, pur non comportandosi male anche su piccole rampe. 

 

Every day we answer many questions from those who ask us which surfskate to buy, what are the differences and in general which is better. The answer is that, quite simply, there is no answer because each of us has different styles, different tastes and sensitivities. So? Then we can compare the characteristics of some well-sold models to help you make a choice that is as in line with your expectations, your tastes and what you want to do with your new surfskate. Let's start!

First of all when we talk about Carver we have to clarify that Carver has 2 different trucks: CX and C7 and they are very different trucks.

TRUCK CARVER CX VS TRUCK SLIDE

Carver CX

Carver's Truck CX is a truck in the reverse kingpin family. The Reverse Kingpin differ from the normal skate trucks in the geometry of the main bolt which has a greater inclination and consequently allows a very narrow radius of curve, impossible with a traditional truck. And the Carver truck naturally has its own geometry.

This type of truck is very simple in maintenance and adjustments.
Softness and response are entrusted to the grommets, the bushings.

In the factory setting, almost all carvers come with standard 89A bushings, but some skates can mount the harder 95A ones.

To adjust the softness that is perceived under the feet it is possible to adjust the nut of the truck a little by tightening or loosening it, the answer changes but up to a certain point. If you want to further modify the answer, you can change the rubbers, replacing them with softer or more rigid bushings, depending on what you are looking for and also in consideration of your weight.

Carver C7

Carver's C7 Truck was the first of its kind and is considered by many to be the surfskate truck par excellence. Here we have a mechanism mounted on two plates that have the ability to rotate. The rebound, or the return in position is entrusted to a spring.

This type of truck offers an extreme cornering angle.
The softness and the response can be adjusted by intervening on a bolt and in addition it is possible to replace the bushings to make it stiffer or softer

In the factory setting it has the standard bushings 89A.

Truck Slide

The Truck Slide (here we speak of version 3) is different from the CX type trucks and also from the carver type C7 trucks, where we do not have a real truck but a mechanism mounted on two plates that oscillate. The truck slide also revolves around a pivot but in addition it has a spring inside that regulates rigidity and guarantees the return (the rebound) at the end of the stroke. 

To adjust the softness and the response you can loosen or tighten the spring.

Measurements:  The three trucks are practically identical as regards height and width. 

Weight: The Carver CX truck weighs 419 grams, the Carver C7 weighs 530 grams while the Slide truck weighs 603gr

Truck rear

The rear trucks look alike in both geometry and size. 

The weight is slightly different. The C2 (Carver's rear truck) is a little heavier: 448 gr against the 417 gr of the Slide rear truck.  

Risers: Carver trucks, front and rear, are normally assembled on 2 thicknesses, risers, 0.5mm each, for a total of 1 cm.
Slide instead uses a single riser (one in front and one behind) of 0.5mm.

Bearings and wheels

Both Carver and Slide have Abec 7 bearings

For the wheels, however, the discussion is a little longer because, especially for Carver, there is a wide choice. In fact, Carver offers a range of 9 types of wheels, even if the most used models are two or three. It starts with the smaller 58mm diameter and hard wheels (98A), suitable for street models for this year's novelty: the large 75mm diameter wheels in Ecothane and 81A which mounts the most surfstyle model in the range, the new Super Surfer. Between these two extremes we find the Roundhouse 70mm 78a, which are the most used together with the concave.

Slide offers 2 models of wheels. The 70mm 78A wheels that are used on most skates and the 65mm 78A with 45 ° beveled profile.

What changes and how to choose the wheels?

In principle, larger wheels give greater inertia, smoothness and speed. Softer wheels absorb vibrations more.  

DECK

Carver decks are made of 7 sturdy layers of Canadian maple and covered with a dual density grip.
The slide decks are also made of 7 maple layers.

As for the shapes, Carver has a really wide range, with decks for all tastes and for all rider characteristics. From tablets just 28 inches long, perfect for kids or for use in the city and on the flat, up to a model up to 36.5 meters long. Most of the models, however, stand around 32 inches in length. 
Some of the shapes are made in collaboration with All Merrick, others with professional surfers.
Some models are distinguished by particular types of concave, very accentuated, which allows to give greater thrust with the feet.

Slide for its part has a range that currently includes 4 main models that have sizes from 31 to 33, declined in various colors, plus a 35 long model and two 30-inch models.

SURFSKATE CARVER AND SLIDE

And here is the comparison between some complete models of Carver and Slide, in particular Carver Resin, Carver Yago Dora, Slide Fish. 

The height from the ground of the two skates is almost identical if we postpone the difference due to the concave. 

Even the weight, despite the differences we had detected in the front truck is practically identical: we are 2.90 kg for the Yago Dora with CX, 3.05 for the Resin with C7 and 3.10 for the Slide Fish.

PRICE

As for the price, the cheapest Carver models with CX trucks start from € 311 and go up to € 343 to have the C7 truck. All Slide models have the same price: € 169 

Conclusions?

At this point you are probably wondering which is worth buying and which of the two skateboards is better, but unfortunately we have no certain answers on this! What we can say is that Carver with his CX has made a truck that has very few rivals. A simple mechanism, with little maintenance, capable of turning very tight and responding well in any situation. Very good for flat training, excellent on ramps, descents and speed.
The C7, on the other hand, is the favorite of those who do not spend much time on the ramps but prefer a style made of powerful carvings. Also great for some super easy and relaxed punping.

Slide on its side has managed to create a product with a really pleasant and fluid feeling at a price that is about half that of a Carver. A skate that of Slide which is also easier and more immediate for those who are beginners and particularly suitable for flat use, although not behaving badly even on small ramps. 

Is it worth spending almost double for a Carver? Absolutely yes if you will use it often, if you want to take surfskate seriously and use it to train and progress in other table sports, if you are not at your first surfskate and if the budget is not a problem. 

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Pubblicato il 17 aprile 2020 | Blog > Equipments: SURFSKATE

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